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    Junior Member IanT's Avatar
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    My Top Three:

    1. Casino Royale - I re-read it countless times
    2. OHMSS - as above - both books are on my long journey list
    3. High Time To Kill - never get fed up of reading that on either

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    Carte Blanche is my personal favorite from non Fleming titles and Diamonds Are Forever from Fleming titles

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    I have literally just put down the final Bond novel (Not including the Quantum collection!) The Man With The Golden Gun. I have to say my favourite Bond books in order are:

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service: I read this on a cruise ship in Ville France last year and I loved it. Crazy plot, Bond undercover, Blofield (best villain of all time?) and finally the escape from the chateau and down the mountain is so descriptive. Pure Fleming at his best.

    Goldfinger: Escapism at its best? Everything I want from a fiction book and Bond. Brilliant villain, car chase across Europe, Bond at his wittiest and a crazy finale. Brilliant.

    Casino Royale: My girlfriend used the opening chapter to teach her English class about descriptive writing. Dark, classic Bond with the hotel, the vesper, the car smash (Bonds insurance premiums must be huge!)

    Having finished them all I'm now wondering what to read next? Start all over again before Skyfall? ;-)

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    Mr. Shaken. Not stirred, Is it okay on a Bond site, especially if you've read all the Bond books to read 'Where Eagles Dare' by Allistar MacLean? Compared to other thriller writers of the time, such as Ian Fleming, MacLean's books are exceptional in one way at least: they have an absence of sex and most are short on romance because MacLean thought that such diversions merely serve to slow down the action.

    Nor do the MacLean books resemble the later techno-thriller approach. Instead, he lets little hinder the flow of events in his books, making his heroes fight against seemingly unbeatable odds and often pushing them to the limits of their physical and mental endurance. MacLean's protagonists are usually calm, cynical men entirely devoted to their work and often carrying some kind of secret knowledge. A sometime twist is that one of the hero's closest companions turns out a traitor.

    The title is from Act I, Scene III in William Shakespeare's Richard III: "The world is grown so bad, that wrens make prey where eagles dare not perch".

    It was good in audio. I love that movie as well as Ice Station Zebra, that Maclean wrote the novel too. I only give you this info because you've run out of 007 novels and can use them to tapper of you're grand addiction. I loved 'Casino Royale'. And Goldfinger was great, too. Ice Station Zebra's novel is different than the movie and some, including my dad recently said it's great, so I'll have to get to that soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emery_cormier View Post
    For the Fleming titles, Goldfinger and From Russia With Love have been my faves. I have issues with the continuations. I've read a few of Gardners and they are just too far fetched and distort the timeline. Gardner and Deaver have the painful habit of making Bond to reliant on technology, when even in the films he used them with presicion and non-chalance, in the novels he relies on them... I mean why fly your Saab 900 turbo with you to America? And Deaver,s magic iQPhone... give me a break...

    I read Colonel Sun and it is by far the best continuation novel. Devil May Care was decent, if not bland. However, Higsons Young Bond is very, very interesting. And I am pleased so far with my experience reading Bensons Union Trilogy.
    Couldn't agree more From Russia with love is definatley my favourit. I havent read Colonel Sun but have ordered it today and looking forward to reading it.

    I was also looking forward to reading Carte Blanche and saved it to read on my Hunnymoon but was really disappointed, Deaver has such an annoying habit of over explaining every thing. I wish he would assume the reader has at least a modicum of intelligence.

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    I have yet to read Dr.No, but so far I'd have to rate all of them - lets not mention The Spy Who Loved Me - as first rate. I particularly enjoyed (Goldfinger, Diamonds) Fleming's evocation of America - that great dream of the twentieth century; brash, audacious, self confident and unashamed. How the CIA must laugh at the notion it's all down to a chain-smoking Engli... I digress. Don't leave out Golden Gun, even though Fleming was clearly a dying man when he wrote it. He really had a touch with words that we shan't see again.
    Non-Fleming?, well, I'd suggest Roger Moore's account of filming Live & Let Die as a slightly off-centre read. You'll never see a bidet in the same light...

  7. #17
    Ian Fleming, of course, reigns supreme, he created Bond and vested him with all the traits millions came to love.

    Readers can't go wrong with his original 12 novels and nine short stories. My personal favorites are FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, DR. NO, ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN and the stories 'Risico' from FOR YOUR EYES ONLY and 'The Property of a Lady' from OCTOPUSSY. I just reread the latter a few days ago and found it compelling, even suspenseful despite the lack of derring-do and femmes fatale. With the exception of THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, which Fleming more-or-less disowned after publication, you can't go wrong with any of his Bonds. All of them have high points: the cameramen blowing themselves up in CASINO ROYALE along with Bond's pursuit of Vesper after defeating Le Chiffre at Baccarat; the bridge and golf games in MOONRAKER and GOLDFINGER respectively; and the scene in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER when Bond climbs down the side of the Queen Elizabeth to Tiffany's stateroom to take out Wint and Kidd with a .25 Beretta (Have you ever held one of those pistols in your own hand? It's only a little bigger than a derringer.), as far as Fleming gunfights go, DAF's climax is as thrilling as the Gypsy camp scene in FRWL and the train ride fireworks in TMWTGG.

    It's all down to Fleming's prose, it cannot be duplicated! I don't care if Glidrose authorized it or not, everything else is just fan fiction. Amis' COLONEL SUN and Gardner's ICEBREAKER are fun, but they aren't authentic 007. Fleming's writing had a certain DNA not unlike Doyle's Holmes, Burroughs' Tarzan, Howard's Conan, Chandler's Marlowe, et al. Those authors created timeless, peerless heroes on paper that are celebrated decades after the aforementioned writers' funerals (more than a century in the case of Doyle and Burroughs).

    Despite my convictions about fanfic, which I have absolutely nothing against, I just prefer my own original characters, I'm at work on my own take of the inimitable Mr. Bond. The working title is 'The Girl with the Walther PPK.' Even channeling my very best 'inner Fleming' I predict it will be dreadful.
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    Flemming Titles

    First - Casino Royale - My number one, Such a classic cold war/second world war sort of novel comparable, in my opinion, to Enigma by Robert Harris, which was based upon a true WW2 tale, of deciphering the infamous German Enigma cypher.

    Second - 007 in New York - Best scrambled eggs I've ever eaten.

    Third - Hard to say, I appreciate most of the short stories in the Quantum of Solace release.

    Non- Flemming

    First - Has to be Carte Blanche, not only a fantastic drink, a brilliant story that kept me on my toes. Being a student of International Relations and Majoring in Security. The book showed to authors work very well. They're were many references to recent International incidents and concerns as well as bring back a sense of Bond being this real person, with real problems, not just another super sleuth.

    Second - Hurricane Gold - A younger persons book, I know, But I picked one up on a flight for work one morning and thought I'd give it a try, turned out to be quite good with some very classic "Bond Baddie" situations, such as his captor making him run the "incomplete-able" gauntlent. Which reminded myself some how of the situation that Mr. Goldfinger puts bond in with his laser.

    And that's my pick.

  9. #19
    What is everyone's take on the Fleming short stories not made into movies yet.?

    The Hildebrand Rarity
    The Property of a Lady
    007 in New York

  10. #20
    I'm reading 'Devil May Care' by Sebastian Faulks right now, which I'm enjoying. I can give a more detailed opinion in a week or so.

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